Subject: Re: [ublas] GSOC 2013
From: Nasos Iliopoulos (nasos_i_at_[hidden])
Date: 2013-03-23 11:15:16
David,
Since mdsd:array is a generic multi-dimensional container it is not
bound to algebraic operations. I expect that with proper aligned memory
allocation and SSE aglorithms (It is easy to add a custom storage
container that supports that) it will be as fast as MKL, GotoBLAS, Eigen
or armadillo. I believe that within that context, a GSOC project will
need to include both the matrix container and the SSE algorithms tasks,
or even AVX. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions)
In any case I would like to emphasize that although I would like to see
uBlas to compete at the vector-operation level, I think it should not
lock itself out from high performance computing interfaces.
A nice project that I have in mind for the latter is the tpetra package
of trillinos:
http://trilinos.sandia.gov/packages/docs/r11.0/packages/tpetra/doc/html/index.html.
Altough Sandia is doing some impressive job putting together modern C++
computational packages I feel that a more refined version can provide a
more consisent C++ interface.
Best,
Nasos
On 03/23/2013 10:44 AM, David Bellot wrote:
> Wow it looks indeed very interesting. Yes, I know what you mean by
> "rare free time". Same thing here :-)
> Let me have a more thorough look at it and why not start using it too.
> Have you compared it to what is done with Eigen and Armadillo. Itseems
> these 2 libraries are quite popular these days.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Nasos Iliopoulos <nasos_i_at_[hidden]
> <mailto:nasos_i_at_[hidden]>> wrote:
>
> David,
> I have been working on a generic stato-dynamic multi-dimensional
> array that can enable something like what you propose. It uses
> C++11 functionality (variadic templates and functions mainly).
> Please take a look at: https://github.com/nasosi/mdsdarray and
> https://github.com/nasosi/mdsdarray/wiki/Interface-examples. The
> developement is slow-paced because I am working on it at the rare
> free time I have on weekends.
> I am currently thinking of how to implement an appropriate
> iterator that would be SIMD friendly. In that context I am
> considering something across the lines of the interface of OpenCL
> and CUDA. This would work nicely with the C+11 new for loops as well.
>
> If you think your proposal can build on top or even contribute to
> mdsdarray, I can provide a version under a Boost or MIT license.
>
> Best,
> -Nasos
>
>
>
> On 03/23/2013 08:47 AM, David Bellot wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I proposed a Google Summer of Code project for uBLAS.
>> It's based on the wish listthat has been donesome time agoalong
>> time ago.
>>
>> The main ideais to refactor vector into matrix to have only one
>> internal and external representation, one set of algorithm. As a
>> convenience, the class vector<> will still exist and will, for
>> example, beby default a row-vector (like a simple C-array would
>> be).Or a column-vector if we prefer but I think matlab is
>> row-oriented by default (and I hate R which is column oriented,
>> even if I use it every single day at work!!! :-D :-D ah ah ahah!
>> Let the flame war begin).
>>
>> OK, the idea behind this is to have a clean framework to enable
>> optimization based on SSE, Neon, multi-core, ... you name it.
>> I'm sure the student who will work on that will take inspiration
>> from boost::bindings, Eigen, Armadillo, etc...
>> The project is very open, so suggestions are most welcome.
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
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