Subject: Re: [boost] [Booster] Or boost is useless for library developers
From: Artyom (artyomtnk_at_[hidden])
Date: 2010-05-20 15:37:50
First of Boost I didn't proposed Booster to be replacement of
boost as I don't really care about full Windows support.
So don't take a look on Booster as what Boost should be.
> >
> > I don't think that Booster is the way to go because I
> created it for
> > my partial needs rather needs of Boost community.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > - Booster.Thread is just wrapper of
> pthreads/pthreads-win32 with boost
> > like API.
>
> Oh please no!!!
>
> Why should I be forced to use a GPL'ed external library
> rather than a "first class citisen" that talks to the
> platform API's directly.
1. pthreads-win32 is LESSER GPL library (not GPL) and many-many project
use it
2. Boost.Thread is just C++ implementation of Pthreads standard.
Every function that exists in Boost.Threads exists in pthreads
and other way.
Boost thread is designed AFTER pthreads concepts and API.
>
> > - Booster.Regex is just a wrapper of PCRE.
>
> Oh heavens. So lets see... no wide character support,
IMHO wide characters should be vanished from C++ it is the worst way
to represent Unicode (and I know thing or two about Unicode).
See:
- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1049947/should-utf-16-be-considered-harmful
- http://cppcms.sourceforge.net/boost_locale/html/tutorial.html#myths
And PCRE supports Unicode quite well with UTF-8 support.
And if you really want Unicode - only ICU can help you.
> no support for segmented containers (think really large
> texts stored in discontinous memory - I've had people using
> this support to search multi-gigabyte texts that could never
> be stored in memory or searched via a C interface).
Ahhhhh... Are you running regex over multi-gigabyte texts?
Then something wrong with your design.
> BTW do you realise that Boost.Regex has had an ABI stable
> POSIX-standard compatible C interface for the last um.... 12
> years.... and yes that's since before Boost existed.
No I do not. To be honest I'm glad to hear it (really...)
I'll take a look of I can extract Boost.Regex as is for Booster.
And it would be easy to put it into boost-abi
>
> I'll end with this thought: "templates generate no more
> code bloat than non-templates unless they are used
> gratuitously". For example instantiating
> vector<int> and vector<long> in the same program
> on a platform where int and long are the same size should
> probably be considered a mistake. But that's no reason
> to ditch std::vector, just to be sensible in ones usage.
>
Nobody tells you make vector non-template or non-inlined as vector
is just type-safe array with iterators just wrappers of pointers.
But I do not think that networking library should be inlined (for example)
It is the point of design.
Best,
Artyom